Region Brackets
Quote from Grappling Fanantic on February 19, 2025, 5:17 pmAre the region brackets released on track wrestling prior to Saturday when the tournaments are? Teams have to have their wrestlers in by today I thought.
Are the region brackets released on track wrestling prior to Saturday when the tournaments are? Teams have to have their wrestlers in by today I thought.
Quote from Takedown247365 on February 19, 2025, 6:08 pmBrackets are usually released after weigh-ins (day of tournament). I assume this is encase an adjustments need to be made to the brackets (scratch, not making weight, etc.).
Brackets are usually released after weigh-ins (day of tournament). I assume this is encase an adjustments need to be made to the brackets (scratch, not making weight, etc.).
Quote from chargergrad on February 20, 2025, 9:58 amThe coaches should have the region preseeds If someone don’t make weight there is no adjustment. It has been a forfeit in the past. Would be nice to hear of any late season weight changes.
The coaches should have the region preseeds If someone don’t make weight there is no adjustment. It has been a forfeit in the past. Would be nice to hear of any late season weight changes.
Quote from lace em up on February 20, 2025, 12:18 pmAccording to the Wrestling bylaws, I read it to mean the bracket should be re-seeded...
Substitutions
In the Region Tournaments substitutions may be made after the seeding and drawing meeting, up until weigh-in
time ends, provided the substitution is requested because of illness, injury, or disciplinary action.
No substitution is permitted for a wrestler who does not make weight.
a.
For illness or injury, the substitution will be permitted only if a doctor’s written excuse or a written excuse
signed by a school administrator is submitted to the Committee in charge.
b. For disciplinary action, the substitution will be permitted only if the reasons are verified in writing, by the
school’s administration.
c.
The substitute designated to replace his teammate will do so in the position of the original draw unless the
substitute is replacing a “seeded” wrestler, whereby there shall be a re-seeding and re-drawing of that weight
class.
NOTE: If there is not a substitute designated to replace a teammate who is a “seeded wrestler” there also shall
be a re-seeding and re-drawing of that weight class. Any re-draw eliminates positions established in a
previous draw.
d. If an athlete is entered at the seeding meeting and fails to meet the requirements following weigh-ins (illness,
injury, not making weight, etc.) and there is no replacement, the open spot becomes a forfeit not a bye. Byes
will only be used if no wrestler is actually entered during the seeding meeting.
According to the Wrestling bylaws, I read it to mean the bracket should be re-seeded...
Substitutions
In the Region Tournaments substitutions may be made after the seeding and drawing meeting, up until weigh-in
time ends, provided the substitution is requested because of illness, injury, or disciplinary action.
No substitution is permitted for a wrestler who does not make weight.
a.
For illness or injury, the substitution will be permitted only if a doctor’s written excuse or a written excuse
signed by a school administrator is submitted to the Committee in charge.
b. For disciplinary action, the substitution will be permitted only if the reasons are verified in writing, by the
school’s administration.
c.
The substitute designated to replace his teammate will do so in the position of the original draw unless the
substitute is replacing a “seeded” wrestler, whereby there shall be a re-seeding and re-drawing of that weight
class.
NOTE: If there is not a substitute designated to replace a teammate who is a “seeded wrestler” there also shall
be a re-seeding and re-drawing of that weight class. Any re-draw eliminates positions established in a
previous draw.
d. If an athlete is entered at the seeding meeting and fails to meet the requirements following weigh-ins (illness,
injury, not making weight, etc.) and there is no replacement, the open spot becomes a forfeit not a bye. Byes
will only be used if no wrestler is actually entered during the seeding meeting.
Quote from lace em up on February 20, 2025, 2:29 pmHow can seeding be any different than what is listed in the rules? Why do we have rules? It is spelled out with head-to-head as #1, yet some brackets seem to be arbitrary.
The following criteria will be used to seed wrestlers for the Region Tournaments (listed in priority order):
1) Head to Head Competition – If two wrestlers have wrestled more than once and one has a better record
against opponent, the higher seed goes to the wrestler with the most wins. If two wrestlers have identical
records against each other the higher seed goes to the wrestler with the most recent win.
2) Record against common opponents – TrackWrestling default Common criteria shall be used
3) Returning state place winner at any weight (order of place).
4) Returning region place winner at any weight (order of place).
5) Wrestler who earned state/region place at the weight class nearest to the one being considered.
6) Winning percentage – percentages recorded in thousands (no rounding).
7) Coin flip.
If more than two wrestlers are being considered, return to the top of the criteria with the remaining
wrestlers once a seed has been awarded or a wrestler eliminated from contention for that given seed.
How can seeding be any different than what is listed in the rules? Why do we have rules? It is spelled out with head-to-head as #1, yet some brackets seem to be arbitrary.
The following criteria will be used to seed wrestlers for the Region Tournaments (listed in priority order):
1) Head to Head Competition – If two wrestlers have wrestled more than once and one has a better record
against opponent, the higher seed goes to the wrestler with the most wins. If two wrestlers have identical
records against each other the higher seed goes to the wrestler with the most recent win.
2) Record against common opponents – TrackWrestling default Common criteria shall be used
3) Returning state place winner at any weight (order of place).
4) Returning region place winner at any weight (order of place).
5) Wrestler who earned state/region place at the weight class nearest to the one being considered.
6) Winning percentage – percentages recorded in thousands (no rounding).
7) Coin flip.
If more than two wrestlers are being considered, return to the top of the criteria with the remaining
wrestlers once a seed has been awarded or a wrestler eliminated from contention for that given seed.
Quote from Fat125 on February 20, 2025, 2:48 pmQuote from lace em up on February 20, 2025, 2:29 pmHow can seeding be any different than what is listed in the rules? Why do we have rules? It is spelled out with head-to-head as #1, yet some brackets seem to be arbitrary.
The following criteria will be used to seed wrestlers for the Region Tournaments (listed in priority order):
1) Head to Head Competition – If two wrestlers have wrestled more than once and one has a better record
against opponent, the higher seed goes to the wrestler with the most wins. If two wrestlers have identical
records against each other the higher seed goes to the wrestler with the most recent win.
2) Record against common opponents – TrackWrestling default Common criteria shall be used
3) Returning state place winner at any weight (order of place).
4) Returning region place winner at any weight (order of place).
5) Wrestler who earned state/region place at the weight class nearest to the one being considered.
6) Winning percentage – percentages recorded in thousands (no rounding).
7) Coin flip.
If more than two wrestlers are being considered, return to the top of the criteria with the remaining
wrestlers once a seed has been awarded or a wrestler eliminated from contention for that given seed.Not sure which bracket you are referring to specifically, but it can get messy in a few brackets. What if the 4 seed, beat the 1 seed, but lost to the 2 and 3 seeds. The 1 seed has beaten both the 2 and 3 seed, with his only loss being to the 4 seed. Who gets 1? It isn't always cut and dry.
Quote from lace em up on February 20, 2025, 2:29 pmHow can seeding be any different than what is listed in the rules? Why do we have rules? It is spelled out with head-to-head as #1, yet some brackets seem to be arbitrary.
The following criteria will be used to seed wrestlers for the Region Tournaments (listed in priority order):
1) Head to Head Competition – If two wrestlers have wrestled more than once and one has a better record
against opponent, the higher seed goes to the wrestler with the most wins. If two wrestlers have identical
records against each other the higher seed goes to the wrestler with the most recent win.
2) Record against common opponents – TrackWrestling default Common criteria shall be used
3) Returning state place winner at any weight (order of place).
4) Returning region place winner at any weight (order of place).
5) Wrestler who earned state/region place at the weight class nearest to the one being considered.
6) Winning percentage – percentages recorded in thousands (no rounding).
7) Coin flip.
If more than two wrestlers are being considered, return to the top of the criteria with the remaining
wrestlers once a seed has been awarded or a wrestler eliminated from contention for that given seed.
Not sure which bracket you are referring to specifically, but it can get messy in a few brackets. What if the 4 seed, beat the 1 seed, but lost to the 2 and 3 seeds. The 1 seed has beaten both the 2 and 3 seed, with his only loss being to the 4 seed. Who gets 1? It isn't always cut and dry.
Quote from lace em up on February 20, 2025, 5:59 pmThank you for your response. I appreciate it.
I understand if A beats B, B beats C, and C beats A, that it can get messy.
I was looking at something, which in my mind, that was more straightforward. C beat A 4 times out of 6 matches this year. C beat A in the most recent matchup also. Yet A received the #1 seed, C received the #3 seed. B didn't have any matches with A or C, yet got the #2 seed.
Now I see the brackets have been removed from track, so maybe they'll fix them. We'll see...
Thank you for your response. I appreciate it.
I understand if A beats B, B beats C, and C beats A, that it can get messy.
I was looking at something, which in my mind, that was more straightforward. C beat A 4 times out of 6 matches this year. C beat A in the most recent matchup also. Yet A received the #1 seed, C received the #3 seed. B didn't have any matches with A or C, yet got the #2 seed.
Now I see the brackets have been removed from track, so maybe they'll fix them. We'll see...
Quote from Armbar on February 22, 2025, 9:53 amIt's Weird they were up Thursday afternoon then that evening they were down. They were up again yesterday afternoon.
It's Weird they were up Thursday afternoon then that evening they were down. They were up again yesterday afternoon.
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