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I’ll be glad to be done with this, but you really think I would bring something out like that without having the facts? Of course I am not going to give you their names and the town they were from, they don’t need to be apart of this. I will say it is about 20 miles away from Canton.

Negative energy? I am just rebutting everyone of your incorrect statements and pointing out that all of the wrestlers didn’t just magically end up in Canton. Someone had a hand in it. Maybe you should quit being naive and open your eyes. We wouldn’t even be having this discussion if you wouldn’t be trying to justify what goes on, you should have just let it go.

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The better question to ask is just how Canton can stay in the Bs year after year.   With these kids coming in and if the town is actually growing.     Almost like they have someone keeping track of their enrollment numbers.  Now I’m not saying that is what’s going on.  But something just seems odd with some of the other schools that go back and forth from As to Bs.

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You must be a Democrat

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Quote from lamson719 on March 6, 2025, 8:10 pm

You must be a Democrat

You win the prize for dumbest response of the week.   Maybe I am maybe I’m not.   Why would you ever think politics has anything to do with my post?

Wait let me get my popcorn so I can truly enjoy your response ..

Just the way you bitch and moan about nothing

Quote from lamson719 on March 6, 2025, 10:50 pm

Just the way you bitch and moan about nothing

It’s a legit question. I have heard many people talk ask the same question.   As well as every time people bring up Canton brining in these kids year after year.  Then people saying all these family’s moving to Canton.   So yes people are going to ask the question.  More than you might think or want to know…

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Quote from Travis on March 3, 2025, 9:06 pm

I am not saying they aren’t good coaches, I am not saying their fan base is bad.

all I am saying is not hard to win state eight years in a row when you miraculously pick up hammers…

all 6 champions from other programs and somehow strangely ended up in the same place. Now pull up winner Kimball Phillip parkston, bH…

between all of them, they don’t have six kids that didn’t start out in their AAU program.

my hat off to the canton kids they work hard. Granum 144 last year my kid wrestled him to 190 this year and he is jacked

I think there is about a coach per kid there in Canton, don't know why that is necessary in hike school (MAYBE to control some of these transfers coming in idkkk) but good on them for having the involvement of anyone and everyone. Even adults want to be winners in high school sports! Canton being a small town near all the cities over on the smelly east side could be an attraction to families I suppose, but it is frustrating for many SD people to see the stuff you that you hear about in prep schools around the country. But, man, those fans sure act like they are from the big cities, ie, pretty arrogant about being bigger and better than the small town people etc etc. It is the stuff you just don't see AS MUCH in most humble, PRIDEFUL, small town communities where most people are FRIENDS that have known each other for years, where poor actions get reflected onto the community as a whole. Small town people would DIE for their little communities. From what I hear about Canton, that isn't the case GENERALLY speaking. Of course there are some ride or diers over there. This conversation obviously wouldn't be happening if they weren't blowing other teams out of the water, which has probably never happened LIKE THIS in the history of anywhere in a PUBLIC high school sports progrum. But, kids do transfer from school to school. Winner got some kids from Kimball, White Lake, Platte, Geddes etc. etc. who were state champs and high placers and from Burke/Gregory who we just saw win a state title (but he's young and has mostly grown in that AAU progrum....I think). Kimball, White Lake, Platte, Geddes etc. etc.(wonder how many more towns they need jeeeepers) took a Parkston kid who was a state champ and placed top 3 another couple few more times I think. Phillip/Kadoka/ Wall area is in God's country where it just makes sense to have that many towns collaborate (doubt they pull kids just to be athletes, like Canton does, to those areas because it is, again, in God's country where real life work and the future betterment of the kids life is prioritized, i.e heavy ranching/ farming). I don't think Parkston has ever had a transfer come into their progrum. I can think of the Hawkins kid, who transferred to Webster from Groton, took a visit to Parkston and the kids, coaches, and parents were not too happy about that because they didn't want outside noise coming into what they built the years prior (AAU success into high school success). I cannot think of any transfers going into Bon Homme either. But they have Tyndall, Tabor, Avon, and Scotland kids occasionally but that has happened since Christ was a kid. Don't forget about the Bon Homme kid who transferred to Canton and won a team and individual title. I think there was some recruiting going on there per my source(s). To hit on the last point here, we have seen Canton kids take HUGE jumps in weigh classes that we don't really see anywhere else, I am sure there are some other examples in other places but not as prominent as in this community. Why do we think this is? I am not the only person in the state who has assumed and then been confirmed in later years about the reasoning.......drugs, allegedly!! Don't say "Mr French, that is quite the assumption to be made about high school kids doing........drug, allegedly." Lord knows and that's all that matters. Let us also keep in mind that situations are situational and that sometimes it is beyond the kids' control on where their family moves. We shall not blame these kids as we know parents, anymore, are the cause of most of the problems we see, i.e, showboating, lack of discipline, quitting on teammates, arguing with coaches, lifestyle habits....drugs, allegedly, fighting teammates and opponents, lack of sportsmanship, being selfish teammates, allowing kids to transfer high schools for SPORTS...smh, to name a few! If parents think it is best for their kids to uproot their families' lives just so their kid can walk into a power house and win a state championship, they will eventually learn about failure the hard way in the real world.... gol dixie I hope that doesn't happen to anyone but sadly, it does to kids who get things handed to them. It would be fun to see some more home town power houses arise, again. As a great teacher once told me, "All great things must come to an end."

 

All in all, good points here Travis!

 

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I agree other town have kids move in for life changing events from time to time.

They also only have them move out…

canton only has them move in. Many like the 150 show up already a hammer…

Cantons recruiting game is second to none.

 

also oh they are close to bad part of SF… these kids didn’t come from SF they came from Kingsbury Co his family still there… he lives with other wrestling family

 

they don’t even hide it …

just love reading the excuses and all the stories how great they are just wish the sports section would dig a bit deeper

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I have lived in the Sioux Falls area for over thirty years, before that I taught high school and coached wrestling in Minnesota. There we were all measured against Apple Valley. And for many years, we all came up short as well. Gable Steveson being the most famous, but a lot of champs came out of there. What I have seen out of Canton is that they were building a wrestling culture back at that time. And they got a little bit better every year. And they eventually became a contender. Lots of youth wrestling participation out of Canton, and they set themselves apart of the Sioux Falls schools, who have struggled more in recent years. A lack of consistent coaching from what I have seen. Swanson and Swenson wrestled for Canton back when they were building. This is a program that has grown, for the most part, organically. Are kids going to transfer in, of course! As a number of people have said, kids will go where they feel they have the best chance of success. I remember my neighbors kids transferring to SF Washington like 15-20 years ago, they got a great coach and he drew on the deep pool of talent and no surprise, they won. He left and they had some success with the next coach, and then he left and it collapsed. Why? Lack of a great coach, and the culture was lacking.

Canton has the culture and coaching. You need both. Do the other towns have great coaches and a wrestling culture? Of course. Canton has had consistency for in their culture that has been built over several decades. That's hard to beat in any sport. I have seen the Canton fans around the area at a lot of tournaments, they are just like everyone else with one exception, I have never heard them boo another towns wrestlers. If my daughters had wanted to wrestle, i would have asked them where would they want to go? My guess is they would have opted for Canton. So I cannot blame any kid that goes there any more that I could blame the kids who went to Apple Valley.

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Quote from Steve Johnson on March 7, 2025, 8:26 pm

I have lived in the Sioux Falls area for over thirty years, before that I taught high school and coached wrestling in Minnesota. There we were all measured against Apple Valley. And for many years, we all came up short as well. Gable Steveson being the most famous, but a lot of champs came out of there. What I have seen out of Canton is that they were building a wrestling culture back at that time. And they got a little bit better every year. And they eventually became a contender. Lots of youth wrestling participation out of Canton, and they set themselves apart of the Sioux Falls schools, who have struggled more in recent years. A lack of consistent coaching from what I have seen. Swanson and Swenson wrestled for Canton back when they were building. This is a program that has grown, for the most part, organically. Are kids going to transfer in, of course! As a number of people have said, kids will go where they feel they have the best chance of success. I remember my neighbors kids transferring to SF Washington like 15-20 years ago, they got a great coach and he drew on the deep pool of talent and no surprise, they won. He left and they had some success with the next coach, and then he left and it collapsed. Why? Lack of a great coach, and the culture was lacking.

Canton has the culture and coaching. You need both. Do the other towns have great coaches and a wrestling culture? Of course. Canton has had consistency for in their culture that has been built over several decades. That's hard to beat in any sport. I have seen the Canton fans around the area at a lot of tournaments, they are just like everyone else with one exception, I have never heard them boo another towns wrestlers. If my daughters had wanted to wrestle, i would have asked them where would they want to go? My guess is they would have opted for Canton. So I cannot blame any kid that goes there any more that I could blame the kids who went to Apple Valley.

I love how this moves from denial to admission, and then right to justification. Before you start bragging on youth programs, maybe you should check results from the last few years. Not being negative, just being factual. If someone is going to jump into this, people deserve to have the facts.

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To the guy that says canton youth wrestling is strong… let’s go back as far as you want… see what class b towns bring/ place the most at AAU state.

I promise you they are not even close. To many youth programs

one thing Canton is top notch at is poaching good kids from other towns.

they obviously work kids hard they are good wrestlers. But interesting zero home town kids state champs this year.

Good work Caron be interesting to see who moves to town next season

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Lets not forget these.kids move out of A schools because they cannot win in the B's. I give maybe 2 of those kids could have had an A state champ this year(Granum and Kranz), some wouldn't have even been top 5. The Sioux Falls schools shrug their shoulders at wrestling because it simply isn't important and they've been recruiting for other sports all along, O'Gorman since the 70's and longer. That's why no media really digs into Canton, because it's hypocrisy for the Sioux Falls schools to care

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Coming from a parent of one of the kids these people love to bitch about coming to Canton…. I can tell you we were excited about Harrisburg wrestling (BTW Harrisburg isn’t where I’m from to begin with) until Bryant called all the parents to the auditorium on a Sunday promising how they would practice the hardest, lift the hardest, compete the hardest, etc. and then less than a month later Not coach because he was busy raising daughters which is fine but wow think about that before you energize the town.  There was some hope of staying when Rollie was considering coaching the HS which that would have been a done deal to stay and even though my boy wanted to go to Canton so he could go to HS with so many of his LoG friends would have been enough.  I have the utmost respect for Rollie and his desire to transfer wouldn’t have been a conversation if that were the case because he would have been in great hands there.  It was the next town over and there’s an insane amount of respect for what Coach Swenson and Coach Ask and Coach Swanson are running down there, so hate all you want but there’s nothing weird going on except they are doing a good job down there and people in the area notice it (how could you not).  Side note…. I am incredibly grateful my boy got the small town HS experience because those days are behind Harrisburg permanently.  Coming from Lennox myself and my wife from Lake Andes, the nod definitely goes to the smaller school where your odds of learning community are much higher (and Canton has that above most towns I’ve seen).  Make sure the tinfoil hat fits well, there’s nothing more happening in Canton except they’re doing all the right things in a region where most aren’t and it’s noticed.   And for the people that love to talk conspiracy Canton really is not out of the realm for him to have gone to considering my boy is now a 5th generation of Lincoln county and has always lived writhing 15 miles of Canton.  Absolutely cannot describe with adequate words how insanely stupid it is for people to come on here and speculate about what they know absolutely nothing about.

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A.Meyer

I am not knocking your coaches

i I am not knocking your fans

i am not knocking your student section

I am not knocking your wrestlers…

 

just pointing out some how kids end up going there from all over the state…

look it up on Track.. it’s all there… I do see Giedd changed his town to Canton..

funny his parents still live in desmet his sister still wrestles kingsbury county if you read earlier comments some canton supporter stated he wanted to go there before but no room for him at lighter weights… that seem to smell a bit…

 

Again Canton really good at you call it what you will I call it poaching, recruiting.

we agree on 1 thing cantons region is crap probably why they are trying to take multiple kids from same weight class to state…

 

 

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Winners win, loosers make excuses why they don't win.

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Nice 1st post RJS.

Since we are quoting the topic!

It's important, when going after a goal, to never lose sight of the integrity of the journey.

Right is right, wrong is apparently justified as long as the community and staff supports it and you can put another trophy on the shelf!

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Winners win… poachers poach.

We get it… I think best plan of action is schools just don’t dual canton leaving them ineligible for state Dual team… that would be awesome

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Quote from Travis on March 10, 2025, 9:00 pm

A.Meyer

I am not knocking your coaches

i I am not knocking your fans

i am not knocking your student section

I am not knocking your wrestlers…

 

just pointing out some how kids end up going there from all over the state…

look it up on Track.. it’s all there… I do see Giedd changed his town to Canton..

funny his parents still live in desmet his sister still wrestles kingsbury county if you read earlier comments some canton supporter stated he wanted to go there before but no room for him at lighter weights… that seem to smell a bit…

 

Again Canton really good at you call it what you will I call it poaching, recruiting.

we agree on 1 thing cantons region is crap probably why they are trying to take multiple kids from same weight class to state…

 

 

Well I’m not sure what you mean about Canton’s region being crap… we have McCook and Tri-Valley, Howard and EPJ always brings at least a few studs (Tri-Valley is on the up and up so much they may beat Canton next year) and they aren’t the only ones.  Looks like you’re probably most familiar with Region 3… who knows maybe you’re from Avon.  Maybe your kid wrestled for Wagner instead of BHA.  I won’t speculate on why that’s the case and I sure as hell won’t make unfounded accusations about the coaches at Wagner.  I certainly won’t question why someone throwing accusations at Canton would have one of their boys in a different schools district from their brothers.  Maybe you should make room for doubt in your own thinking and I’m saying this as friendly as I can.  You have no clue what you’re talking about.

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He wasn't 150 when he was an 8th grader Mr jiminee c

Lamson I think the point Jimmy C was making you said he wanted to wrestle for canto for a while but there wasn’t a spot at smaller weights.

that sounds like discussion was had about timing and weight needed for a spot…

 

 

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